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Intelligence and wisdom.

but...
Came up in a conversation elsethread about the nature of wisdom; I decided to capture it here with minor edits.

When I think about the people I know personally whom I'm intuitively inclined to classify as "wise", the property they seem to have in common that others lack is that they habitually reason with all of the data available to them, which includes data about their own habitual behavior and reasoning processes. They rarely if ever seem to have that experience of suddenly realizing that they've been doing or believing something which they already knew was the wrong thing to do or believe, but somehow that didn't seem to matter. That's not to say that they're always right, but when they're wrong it's easy to identify what data they're missing, and when that data is supplied they self-correct quickly.

Wisdom, in this sense, relates to having a well-integrated mind.

By contrast, I seem to class as merely "intelligent" people who are able to reason effectively from a set of data to a justified conclusion, even if they have a habit of neglecting vast chunks of the data they have available. I know lots of intelligent people who apply their intelligence differentially to different domains -- who are brilliant at math, for example, but hopeless at working machinery, or skilled engineers who can't seem to figure out what pisses off their colleagues, or brilliant at developing working models of other people's motivations but unable to make sense of a stock prospectus, etc.

That said, the people who strike me as wise often also strike me as intelligent, and I don't know anyone personally who strikes me as dumb and wise.

Still, I suspect that wisdom in this sense is distinct from intelligence, but that I'm less likely to notice wisdom in an unintelligent person because there are so many implications of the data they have which are obvious to me but not them that it's easy to assume they aren't attending to that data in the first place. That's just speculation, though.

If I wanted to build an intelligent system that also demonstrated wisdom in this sense, I don't think I would do anything special... it's likely to come for free as an emergent property of a well-designed intelligence. I suspect that "lack of wisdom" in humans is an artifact of our jury-rigged, evolved, confluence-of-a-million-special-purpose-hacks brains.

Conversely, if I wanted to increase wisdom (in this sense) in humans, I would probably focus my attention on attention. Wisdom (in this sense) seems to be associated with diffuse focus of attention. Which is consistent with my experience that fear, anxiety, obsession, addiction, and other cognitive patterns that focus attention tend to inhibit wisdom.

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rowanryder
Jan. 23rd, 2013 09:22 pm (UTC)
emotional intelligence, then?
dpolicar
Jan. 23rd, 2013 09:24 pm (UTC)
You mean, do I equate wisdom with emotional intelligence?

No, not really.

Though I do think emotional intelligence is a useful trait to have if one seeks to develop wisdom, insofar as it helps with developing attentional control.
f4f3
Jan. 23rd, 2013 09:25 pm (UTC)
I think I've met a few wise people in my time, but I've never met anyone who claimed to be wise.

I also think I tend to rank people's wisdom according to how much they agree with me, and downgrade their intelligence when they don't...
dpolicar
Jan. 23rd, 2013 09:30 pm (UTC)
One of the most reliable ways for people to convince me of their intelligence is to disagree with me and turn out to be right.

One of the most reliable ways for people to convince me of their wisdom is to disagree with me and have me suddenly realize that not only are they right, but that I already knew that. It's really embarrassing when that happens. It makes me feel foolish. Which, well, duh.
f4f3
Jan. 23rd, 2013 09:40 pm (UTC)
Yes, joking aside, this.

I usually only find out what I think by talking about it, which makes me think that at least I'm wise enough to know that I'm not wise.
dr_tectonic
Jan. 23rd, 2013 10:19 pm (UTC)
I've never met anyone who claimed to be wise.

It does seem like a foolish claim to make.
muffyjo
Jan. 24th, 2013 03:29 am (UTC)
I've met many very wise children who were innocent of the reasons why their wisdom seemed so profoundly true. I would not call the wise dummies, but certainly wise innocents. Mostly because they have a habit of pointing out that the Emperor is not wearing anything which, as it so happens, he wasn't.
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